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Good morning or good evening depending upon your location. I want to ask you the most important question of your life. Your joy or sorrow for all eternity depends upon your answer. The question is: Are you saved? It is not a question of how good you are, nor if you are a church member, but are you saved? Are you sure you will go to Heaven when you die? GOOGLE·NEWSGROUP·POST·152

This is the most important question of your life.

The question is: Are you saved?

It is not a question of how good you are,
nor if you are a church member, but are you saved?

Are you sure you will go to Heaven when you die?

The reason some people don’t know for sure if they
are going to Heaven when they die is because they
just don’t know.

The good news is that you can know for sure that
you are going to Heaven.

The Holy Bible describes Heaven as a beautiful
place with no death, sorrow, sickness or pain.

God tells us in the Holy Bible how simple it is
to be saved so that we can live forever with Him
in Heaven.

"For if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord
and believe in your heart that God raised Him from
the dead, you WILL BE SAVED." (Romans 10:9)

Over 2000 years ago God came from Heaven to earth
in the person of Jesus Christ to shed His blood
and die on a cross to pay our sin debt in full.

Jesus Christ was born in Israel supernaturally to
a virgin Jewish woman named Mary and lived a sinless
life for thirty-three years.

At the age of thirty-three Jesus was scourged and
had a crown of thorns pressed onto His head then
Jesus was crucified.

Three days after Jesus died on a cross and was
placed in a grave Jesus rose from the dead as Jesus
said would happen before Jesus died.

If someone tells you that they are going to die and
then three days later come back to life and it
actually happens then this person must be the
real deal.

Jesus Christ is the only person that ever lived a
perfect sinless life.

This is why Jesus is able to cover our sins(misdeeds)
with His own blood because Jesus is sinless.

The Holy Bible says, "In Him(Jesus) we have
redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of
sins…" (Ephesians 1:7)

If you would like God to forgive you of your past,
present and future sins just ask Jesus Christ to be
your Lord and Saviour.

It doesn’t matter how old you are or how many bad
things that you have done in your life including
lying and stealing all the way up to murder.

Just pray the prayer below with your mouth and mean
it from your heart and God will hear you and save you.

Dear Jesus Christ, I want to be saved so that I can
have a home in Heaven with You when I die. I agree
with You that I am a sinner. I believe that You love
me and want to save me. I believe that You bled and
died on the cross to pay the penalty for my sins and
that You rose from the dead. Please forgive my sins
and come into my heart and be my Lord and Saviour.
Thanks Lord Jesus Christ for forgiving me and saving
me through Your merciful grace. Amen.

Welcome to the family of God if you just allowed God
to save you.

Now you are a real Christian and you can know for
sure that you will live in Heaven forever when this
life comes to an end.

As a child of God we are to avoid sin(wrongdoing),
but if you do sin the Holy Bible says, "My dear
children, I write this to you so that you will not
sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks
to the Father in our defense Jesus Christ,
the Righteous One."

Those of you that have not yet decided to place your
trust in the Lord Jesus Christ may never get another
chance to do so because you do not know when you
will die.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life:
no one can come to the Father(God)(in Heaven), but
by me." (John 14:6)

This means that if you die without trusting in Jesus
Christ as your Lord and Saviour you will die in your
sins and be forever separated from the love of God in
a place called Hell.

The Holy Bible descibes Hell as a place of eternal
torment, suffering, pain and agony for all those who
have rejected Jesus Christ.

The good news is that you can avoid Hell by allowing
Jesus Christ to save you today. Only then will you
have true peace in your life knowing that no matter
what happens you are on your way to Heaven.

Praise the Lord!
Servant of the Lord Jesus Christ
Ronald L. Grossi

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Re: "Crashing the Black Helicopters"

"Hal Womack 3-dan" <wom…@sonic.net> wrote

> Now if the  poor white trash of the South  had been smart, then they,
> too,  would have had black slaves,  right? But since the rednecks were
> on the dumb side to start with,  the rich boys alias plantation owners
> were able hypnotize the knuckle-draggers  by waving the stars & bars
> and rattatatting the drums.

No, Hal, it wasn’t really as simple as ya’ll carpetbaggin’ scalliwags want
to paint it.

From the archives:

From: Will Dockery (opb…@yahoo.com)
Subject: ‘Gods & Generals’: Rich Man’s War
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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan, alt.arts.poetry.comments
Date: 2004-11-30 08:42:34 PST

An aspect of the Civil War routinely ignored by Hollywood:

Rich Man’s War:
Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower
Chattahoochee Valley
By David Williams
Athens, GA: University of Georgia Press, 1998. $34.95

Reviewed by Thandeka

The importance of David Williams’s new book, Rich
Man’s War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the
Lower Chattahoochee Valley, cannot be overestimated.


Williams accomplishes this stunning feat by studying
the socioeconomic factors in the South that led first
to the Civil War and then to the defeat of the
Confederacy, focusing primarily on the thriving
industrial center of Columbus, Georgia, and its
surrounding area, which by 1860 was producing almost a
quarter million cotton bales annually. During the
war, this area became a center for war-related
industries because it was deep in the southern
heartland, far from major theaters of combat; had rail
connections to every major city in the South; and was
at the head of navigation on the Chattahoochee River.
Williams, who grew up in the area, uses photographs
and family history in the book, as well as archival
material. The result is a vivid depiction of the life
and times of a people who called the Civil War "a rich
man’s war and a poor man’s fight."

Williams begins by retelling how the southern planter
class created the white race for purposes of class
exploitation. Until then in Colonial America,
people’s race was defined by their class, and there
was no distinction in law or custom between European
and African servants, all of whom were known as
"slaves." Not surprisingly, these bondservants lived,
loved, worked, and rebelled against their upper-class
oppressors together.


But under the planters’ new race laws, race was
defined by genealogy. Masters and servants who could
claim that all their ancestors came from Europe became
members of the white race. In truth, of course, the
"poor whites" continued to be viewed as an alien race
by the elite. As one Georgia planter wrote a friend,
"Not one in ten [poor whites] is. . . . a whit
superior to a negro." Privately called "white trash"
by the elite, the poor whites were publicly embraced
as racial kin by the planters, 3.7 percent of the
population who owned 58 percent of the region’s slaves
and were dead set on keeping their exploited workers
divided by racial contempt. Because the antebellum
South’s pervasive class exploitation depended on
fabricated white racial pride, any challenge to racial
solidarity among whites threatened to reveal the
hidden class system. Here lay the path to revolution.

Thus it’s not surprising that writer Hinton Rowan
Helper’s 1857 book The Impending Crisis of the South,
which exposed the race-class link, was publicly
burned; a Methodist minister spent a year in jail for
simply owning it; and three Southerners were hanged
for reading it. Here is some of what Helper said:
"The lords of the lash are not only absolute masters
of the blacks. . . . but they are also the oracles and
arbiters of all nonslaveholding whites, whose freedom
is merely nominal, and whose unparalleled illiteracy
and degradation is purposely and fiendishly
perpetuated." According to Williams, this work sold
more copies than any other nonfiction book of the era
and was called by one historian "the most important
single book, in terms of its political impact, that
has ever been published in the United States."


Having set the scene, Williams gives his account of
how most poorer southern whites dealt with the "rich
man’s war." He begins this section of the book by
reminding us that Georgia’s very decision to secede
from the Union was never put to a popular vote.
Rather, it was made by secession delegates, 87 percent
of them slaveholders in a state where only 37 percent
of the electorate owned slaves. These delegates knew
better than to heed antisecessionist delegates’ plea
to submit the decision to the electorate for final
determination. After all, more than half the South’s
white population, three-quarters of whom owned no
slaves, opposed secession.

Next Williams details the Confed-eracy’s corrupt
impressment system. Georgia was one of the first
Confederate states to legislate the right to
confiscate, or impress, private property for the war.
Not surprisingly, corruption ran rampant among
impressment officers, of whom one Georgian said, "They
devastate the country as much as the enemy." Another
Georgian predicted that the widespread corruption
would "ultimately alienate the affections of the
people from the government." It did.


To add insult to injury, planters continued growing
cotton (rather than food) and traded with the North as
poorer whites and the army faced starvation. Williams
also tells us that all too often, funds that should
have been distributed to indigent families wound up in
the pockets of corrupt officials. Not surprisingly,
by 1863, food riots were breaking out all over the
South, led by the starving wives left behind as their
starving husbands, sons, and fathers died for the rich
men and their slaves.

And always, the racial degradation of the poor white
continued. As Williams reminds us, most of the South’s
higher-ranking officers came from the slaveholding
class and treated those under their command like
slaves. One soldier thus complained in a letter home,
"A soldier is worse than any negro on [the]
Chattahoochee river. He has no privileges whatever.
He is under worse task-masters than any negro."
Soldiers were also punished like slaves, says
Williams: "whipped, tied up by the thumbs, bucked and
gagged, branded, or even shot."


Thus did the desertions begin. By September 1864, two
thirds of Confederate soldiers were absent without
leave. One hundred thousand went over to serve in the
Union armies. Thousands more formed anti-Confederate
guerrilla bands, of which one historian wrote that
they were "no longer committed to the Confederacy, not
quite committed to the Union that supplied them arms
and supplies, but fully committed to survival." These
bands, Williams tells us, "raided plantations,
attacked army supply depots, and drove off impressment
and conscription officers. . . . One Confederate
loyalist, a veteran of the Virginia campaigns, said he
felt more uneasy at home than he ever did when he
followed Stonewall Jackson against the Yankees."

Meanwhile, Williams writes, "One prominent antiwar
resident of Barbour County held a dinner honoring
fifty-seven local deserters. Though a subpoena was
issued against the host, the sheriff refused to
deliver it." The draft was by now difficult to
enforce, nor did disgrace attach to either desertion
or evasion. Indeed, Williams concludes that the
Confederacy would have collapsed from within if there
hadn’t been a Union victory.


…the bands of poorer Southern whites who organized
against the Confederacy and who indeed were abused and
exploited by their overlords, first as wage-slaves and
then as canon fodder. Sadly, these Confederate
deserters never understood that not even the one thing
they held onto as their own-their self-image as
whites-actually belonged to them. Rather it was one
among many means used by rich men to exploit them.

The Rev. Thandeka is associate professor of theology
and culture at Meadville/Lombard Theological School.

Happy to shed some light for you about the way things really went down in

Btw, what’s up with the obvious Anti-Semitsm? I saved you the further
embarrassment and snipped all that garbage for you.

"I saw a werewolf drinkin’ a pina colada at Trader Vic’s
And his hair was perfect."  -Warren Zevon

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project <http://www.kannibaal.nl/shadowville.htm>

Autograph Of Zorro" {from *Shadowville Live*}:

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To C.P.Rock

I read your poem this morning.

I was impressed. However, your English-lettered Russian,
although dictionary-correct in single words, didn’t make
sense in combination.

It should have read : V etoy komnate

I don’t know enough Russian to give you a grammatical reason.


Vera Lexi

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National Poetry Month – April 29: Dialogue

Today was grand!  All the lovely love poems.  Thank you so much.  Joy’s
posting the Liz Haight’s Walter and His Fat Wife poems, along with her
"homage" poem prompted today’s theme.  Post a poem that you wrote in response
to, or in dialogue with, or as companion to, another poem.  Of course it will
help us all if you post the inspiring poem as well.

"I stand between two worlds.  I am at home in neither,
and I suffer in consequence…As I  write the sea
whispers to me and I close my eyes. I am looking into
a world unborn and formless that needs to be ordered
and shaped; I see into a whir of shadows of human
figures who beckon to me to weave spells to redeem
them: tragic and laughable figures and some that
are both together–and to these I am drawn."

from Tonio Kroger
  by Thomas Mann

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Re: Check DVD – what's Ginsberg doing with his hands?!?

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Dylanetics wrote:
> Ginsberg’s in the alley in Don’t Look Back, that’s clear.

> But could somebody check exactly what he’s doing there?  (I don’t
> a copy and local DVD man says they’re out.)

> I had assumed Ginsberg was just standing around, looking awkward.
> I read something saying he’s "praying"…and today I found this RMD
> post from NotDarkYet (March 3, 2003).

> "On the DVD edition of Dont Look Back, there is an alternate take of
> the video…set in a park instead of in the alleyway…and the timing
> is off there too. Why does it matter that the timing is off?
> no video with Ginsburg in the background SWEEPING OR CHURNING BUTTER
> WHATEVER HE IS DOING needs to have correct timing on the cue cards!"

> Ginberg looks like he’s "sweeping" or "churning butter"?  So he’s
> moving his two hands in some rhythmic way!

> Could he be playing his finger cymbals?  Or, even better, could he be
> ringing a PAIR OF PRAYER BELLS?  (Tibetan versions are a bell and
> kind of matching thing that’s always held in the other hand.)

> There’s a picture (on line) of Ginsberg being towed around Prague.
> It’s kind of blurry, but he seems to be holding something fairly
> substantial in his left hand.  Some kind of bell array?

> I suspect it’s going to be somewhat unclear on the DVD, but who
> knows… Maybe we can really pin down the Ginsberg/alley/bells thing,
> relating it specifically to Bob’s recollection of the filming of that
> sequence in Don’t Look Back.

> [reconstructed proto-draft]

> Oh, GINSBERG, he’s in the alley/
> With his pointy CROWN and his bells/
> Talking to some French GUY/
> Who says he knows me well.

> "Crown" — Ginsberg would have been mighty proud of the jokey crown
> had worn as King of May only a week or two before.

> The crown’s in that photo — multiple points.  Or maybe Bob started
> with "cardboard"…

> Incidentally, the photo shows that it was taken in front of the
> Merkur" in Prague … "MERCURY HOTEL" to you and me.  Coincidence.

Its been years since I saw the video, but I remember A.G.s lips moving,
and some sign language moves, also.

So, what’s he speaking to the French "girl" [actually Bob Neuwirth, or
was it Michael McClure]?

"Mirror Twins" [Will Dockery]

"Greybeard Cavalier" [0x0000/Fowler/Dockery]

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Poetry Suggestions

Hey everyone there is a girl whom i really fancy, and we have been
spending a lot of time together and her boyfriend is incredibly
controliing of her and she is miserable. I want to do something really
sweet for her. She loves literature and poetry, her favorite poem is
"the love song of J. Alfred Prufrock" I want to do soemthing with a
poem i think she will like whether it is "love song…" or something
else. I have no clue what to do but if i pull this off then it will
help me out in a way that i can not describe. ANY suggestions for poems
for me to read or what i could do with a poem once i found it would be
great. Please let me knwo any suggestions you HAVE NO idea how much i
will appreciate this.

yours in need,

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Tear it up, cognoscenti!

To Di, from a grateful Joe…


I once thought I was all alone,
That all alone I’ll die.
Till that very fateful day,
I met my darling Di.

And everyday, I’ll think of you,
And everyday, I’ll love you!
Everyday, I’ll wish for more,
And everyday I’ll miss you!

You came with tears into my life,
To a life, once filled with fears.
You gave me hope, a life to live,
You dried all my hurting tears.

And everyday, I’ll think of you,
And everyday, I’ll love you!
Everyday, I’ll wish for more,
And everyday I’ll miss you!

Come sun, come rain, come thunderstorm
No matter what the weather,
Not friends nor foes of any form
Can rub our golden days together.

And everyday, I’ll think of you,
And everyday, I’ll love you!
Everyday, I’ll wish for more,
And everyday I’ll miss you!

Be it by the morning light,
At the drop of a silent feather.
I’ll be with you by noon or night,
To spend our lives together.

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colors of love

colors of love

truck trundles roughshod
homeward over unpaved paths
dustfog obscuring
a crimsonblood orb’s
setting neon glint
off the corroded Airstream.

body weary
from hardspent barstool hours
legs rubbery
with amber escape ingested
ears accosted instantaneously
by accusatory fishwife.

hardly inside
smart-ass remarks
begin again
big redneck noise
scrawny-framed frau
never learning discretion.

short-fused anger
bubbles scarlet, white-hot
emotion breaks free
ruby rivulets run
freeflow from split lip
she needed smackin’.


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Re: Kerouac was Dylan's Dylan, and it was February 1966

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Dylanetics wrote:
> Try to see it from Bob’s perspective when he was recording Blonde on
> Blonde.

> Dylan idolized Kerouac, who was his greatest literary hero.  Is that
> point really under dispute?

> On both BIABH, HW61 and BoB itself, Bob borrowed terms from the
> of Kerouac’s novels ("subterranean"/"desolation"/"visions of").  He
> bullt these into the names of HIS OWN SONGS, and they play a critical
> role in the LYRICS/IMAGERY of those songs.

> I don’t question Bob’s originality for a second.  However, is there
> doubt that Bob was paying homage to Kerouac when he adopted those
> in his own creations?

> Bob was obviously an incredibly serious "fan."  In fact, he probably
> took Kerouac a lot more seriously than people on RMD take Bob.
> was Dylan’s Dylan, and then some.

> You know how people get around here when Bob releases a new album?
> think how it was for serious fans in, say, the mid-1970′s when a new
> album came out.

> When Bob was recording Blonde on Blonde in February 1966, The
> Review had just published the first installment of Kerouac’s LATEST
> BOOK.  Bob would have been TOTALLY into it.

> The book, Satori in Paris, was about Kerouac’s trip to France in
> of his family roots, explore his French identity, etc.  It was
> a little disappointing for fans who were still hoping Kerouac would
> write another "American" masterpiece.

In relation to Dylan’s work, SIP was kind of like Nashville Skyline, a
nice little read… pleasant, but no Cody, or On The Road, as NS is no
H61… still good stuff, but not pushing past the edge.

> The idea of Kerouac’s "Frenchness" would have been on Bob’s mind at
> exactly that time.

> Or is it absurd to suppose Bob would ever think that way?

And perhaps the huge American flag used as a backdrop during the 1966
French tour was a nod to Kerouac, who so faithfully protected the flag
during his meeting with Ken Kesey?

"Sea Weed Fox" [Will Dockery]

"Karma Bombs"[Will Dockery]

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